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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:31:00 -
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Hey, yes, this a serious request to get this answered.
Picked up this snippet posted recently (by Mittens) from a popular site starting with k. Feel free to find and read the whole post for context if you think you need to.
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Quote:Though we've had a crushing grip on Empire's oxygen windpipe there were the remaining pockets of oxygen stockpilers and speculators have been leaking onto the market, betting against us. Those stockpiles appear to be reaching their end: sell orders have started thinning out, and buy orders have begun marching steadily upwards. There's only a few largeish orders that's the last real barrier between sustained 1k prices. Oxygen prices have already nearly destroyed gallente reactor profitability: 1k and above should be enough to shut them down and send Empire into a panic. After all, once it's clear the interdiction is working, if you need oxygen for you ships or your towers suddenly it's time to get it before it goes even higher.
At that point, all hell breaks loose as the well runs dry. Drought and pestilence everywhere.
I'm going to ignore the "lolz" and "personal gain" ethos that has been attributed to this campaign and seek a response based on the underlined points.
Mittens. If you're right and the interdiction DOES bring empire to it's knees it will only do so because you will push inflation through the roof.
This genuinly concerns me so I ask these questions in a contrite manner and will refrain from being a smartass.
Question 1) Why does Empire need to be sent "into a panic" with "drought and pestilence everywhere"?
Question 2) As the CSM chair (with it's inherent Eve representation), you're OK that this potentially ruins the economic model for everyone?
Question 3) If the economic model is smashed by inflation, do you realize that CCP could simply become proactive on indy ganking and stop it all. Are you giving them cause? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:35:00 -
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Goddess Ishtar wrote:I think somebody has forgotten that Eve Online is a game. Correct. But I think you'll agree that a lot of RL cash and RL time goes into making it the game it is. YEARS of RL investment in fact. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:40:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:EVE's economy has value in that it generates gameplay and player stories, not because we need to meet our annual GNP goal. A chaotic, fluctuating commodities market is a terrible thing to happen in RL, but an awesome thing to happen in a game.
Economic warfare of this kind is much like shooting warfare. Horrible on the news, awesome in game. I'll accept that economic warfare can be fun but it's a no win for anybody unless the protaganist has or can manipulate all of the goods. They don't nor can they.
They can maipulate the production but that just fuels general inflation, for all parties. Why bother? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:42:00 -
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non judgement wrote:If/when they stop, wont you see heaps of people mining again and making isk from the inflated prices, and after awhile everything will slowly return to normal?
CCP might think it'd be interesting to see how well the Economy recovers from something like this. Yeah, valid point. I have mentioned myself that it really needs to be a very long and sustained campaign to have the effect Mittens claims he's after.
It's why I'm asking because they can't do it but have convinced their members they can. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:52:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Kazanir and I actually wrote that, mittens reposted it to kugu Thx for the heads up. I missed the attribution. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
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Posted - 2011.10.14 22:58:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:The Apostle wrote:non judgement wrote:If/when they stop, wont you see heaps of people mining again and making isk from the inflated prices, and after awhile everything will slowly return to normal?
CCP might think it'd be interesting to see how well the Economy recovers from something like this. Yeah, valid point. I have mentioned myself that it really needs to be a very long and sustained campaign to have the effect Mittens claims he's after. It's why I'm asking because they can't do it but have convinced their members they can. every single moon reaction on a gallente tower (the best :effort: tower for anything but carbides) now loses money except fullerides and nanotransistors which are insanely profitable for some reason) because fueling a gallente pos costs 500m a month And here's the thing (as also mentioned above).
For all the "drought and pestilence" rhetoric it is only going to hurt moon owning alliances and pilots who want to fly T2.
That's why I'm asking why Mittens is even bothering? The fun and frolics bit I already get but that's not the bit I eluded to in the OP.
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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